your chuckmeister & koormeister presents...
MX7000 Black Mamba

              
Limited Edition                       
Ti
me :   Summer 2003            
          Place :   a Wedding in England         
                                                      Weapons of Choice: Brand New...                                           
             Sony DCR-VX2000 3CCD   
              Pana NV-MX7000  3CCD    


Every dark cloud has a silver lining... True my Koormeister?     
How true chucky, Stolen a week before my shoot and thanks  
to you and to your contacts and just in hours before the below
 Formal Wedding Shoot for which I was already paid!  Whew!  
         Below I will tell you in the order all this played out and will document
with lots of images, digital stills and video clips.... 

OK .. so as CM (chuckmeister) says .. every cloud has a silver lining … can you imagine it .. you’re booked to do an all day wedding .. and two weeks before .. someone steals both your cameras .. a VX Sony and a MX5000 Pana!   DUH!

Thankfully a very helpful chuckmeister and his contacts for PAL at rik@cameraaction.com  combined with a brilliant insurance company (Norwich Union) managed to get me two replacement brand new cameras .. JUST in time.

The wedding was midday on Saturday June 24th… the MX NTSC arrived at 07:15 on Friday morning .. thanks to Meister, the VX2000 came in from Rik in Melbourne arriving at 12:06 the same day … PHEW!

CM advises time coding the blank tapes prior to the wedding so I immediately load up and start … 4 tapes for each camera. That is where you take each tape & record 'white' noise or perfect silence and  place a black color on every single pixel position call electronic black... most mixers have this capability. Check chuckmeister home page supervideo.com that's covered at the Yellow sphere. OR
         http://www.supervideo.com/buyersguide.htm

Now .. I had to cover a multi-point scenario. Having had a pre-wedding meeting with the parents of the bride .. they wanted coverage of the special sports car that the groom would drive up to church, the guests arriving at church from outside, and the wedding ceremony from inside. Then photographs would be outside afterwards, and they wanted general video of that before being at the reception hotel, 15 miles away .. BEFORE the guests got there.

The Church on THE DAY:
Wow !  Don't tell me these new Pana MX's can't take stills

Now that’s a number one MUST .. liaison with the customer to make sure that you cover what they want. I asked if a quick visit to the church ( in an old English country village )  could be arranged to check for ambient light .. field of view from the intended camera inside the church .. at the time the MX … so we tried it .. and with the wide angle attachment .. there was ample light.

Number two .. is then to decide your strategy, and plan for every contingency.

I thought that the church was rather small .. so how many guests?

About 100, hmmm. Any young children? of the noisy type? YES!

Right .. so we need to make sure that I can pick up the clean sound from the front, irrespective of how many yelling kids are there.

Luckily, from my design days whilst at the BBC .. I still have my personal designed ‘soundfield’ mike. A small, unobtrusive powered unit with excellent clarity of pickup.

It can sit on the floor near any required pickup area .. and will capture everything with amazing quality. So .. I decided that it would be placed to the left of where the bride and groom were to give their vows .. on the floor. First asking if there would be a choir .. in the choir pews .. NO .. good then I can place the camera on its tripod ‘out of view’ of the majority of the congregation .. yet still get a good shot of the ceremony.

Now we still have three scenarios to cover. The groom arriving in his car, the guests walking up to the church .. the bride arriving with her father … and the ceremony in the church.

I had the able assistance of my eldest daughter .. currently studying CGI at University .. so she agreed to do a tripod shot of the guests arriving ..with the MX, undock and follow the bride into the church . then join me at the front .. in case I needed a second camera for cutaways.

Daughter in background Priest in front:

The VX2000 was on the tripod with stereo sound coming from the mike on the floor.

I also had a ‘cheap’ Digital–8 Sony PC120E ‘hand held’ to cover the groom arriving in his sports car, and also to get some cutaways of guests.

Now I know this is a tacky solution , but provided there is plenty of light .. and you keep zoomed reasonably close to the subject … that camera gives pretty good results. Zoom wide and the lens is your letdown .. they just don’t hold the depth of field and resolution like the 3CCD camera lenses do.

Plenty of spare batteries charged 6 hours plus cover per camera.… I don’t like to use AC power on these shoots .. it’s cumbersome .. and in low ambient sound levels … hum pickup becomes a problem with ‘semi-pro’ cameras.

So .. we are all set to go .. plan to arrive at the church an hour before .. set up .. talk to the priest .. to make sure he’s happy with camera and mike placements .. a little bit of PR goes a long way.

We arrive at 11:00 a.m. .. amidst weather forecasts of thunder and squally showers.

Small polythene bags and ‘sellotape’ handy to wrap cameras in if needed.

NOT as elegant as the meister's Crystal Bubble weatherproof housings .. but that’s our cheap solution.

As we get out of the ‘koormeister mobile’ .. the mobile phone rings … bride’s father .. just heard last night that we’d had our cameras stolen ..(a friend read it in the local paper!) was everything OK?? .. YES! .. we’re at the church … don’t worry!

As usual .. the weather forecast was wrong (GREAT!) .. out comes the sun .. blue skies … wonderful!

Official wedding photographer arrives .. a friend .. I ask him if he knows a shortcut from the church to the reception hotel .. YES .. follow me .. after the wedding .. it’s about 5 miles shorter than the main road .. we’ll get the well before everyone else.

But stay close .. most of the route is farm tracks ..(!!!???!!!)

The Official Photographer:

We met briefly .. I’ll keep out of his way .. if he gives me clearance to cover some important angles I want to get … very worthwhile .. we’re both supposed to appear professional .. good idea to give each other backup.

Well, we setup tripods in the church and outside the entrance … making sure that both cameras were level .. (check the spirit level is horizontal at two 90 degree rotation points) nothing worse than a slow pan which causes a tilting picture!

How long is the service .. I ask the priest .. about 30 minutes … good I have a 1 hour tape .. that means that I can set the inside camera running on locked tripod and get the bride arriving outside on the PC120E as well as entering the church from two angles.

 

Groom arrives. Captured by MX .. here’s a still from video
Nice Car!!!

Then the bridesmaids .. and page boy ….

These stills were all captured .. via firewire from the TRV120E onto the MX300 SD card…. NEAT right?

And next … the BRIDE:
LATE … by 10 minutes! 

So we finally get under way .. the vicar follows me into the church .. asks everybody to stand .. and the dear old lady at the organ plays the bridal entrance march.

I follow the bride and her father in on the PC120E .. whilst making my way to the VX2000 on the tripod.

Yes .. we have noisy kids .. but donning the headphones hung over the tripod .. I hear the couples vows clearly .. despite the cacophony in the background.

The priest positions himself slightly across my line of sight to the couple .. so I lock the VX2000 .. and pick up the MX to do some hand held shots for cutaways .. moving sideways to get a clear view of the bride and groom … I can edit this in later.

The VX2000 is left running to get a continuous soundtrack.

The ceremony finishes .. and we have the signing of the official church register … cutaways with the MX … finally picking up the tripod, microphone and cables and rushing out of the church aided by daughter to load up the car .. and get shots of the guests and newly married couple as they leave the church.

Photographer takes plenty of stills .. then leans across … ‘ready for some fast cross country driving?’ … then follow me .. we get into cars .. and ‘hurtle’ down country lanes at breakneck speed heading for the reception hotel.

We arrive in plenty of time for me to set up tripod outside and get the couple arriving .. as well as the guests.

More photographs in the gardens .. all the guests of bride and groom have to be photographed in groups … I video some of the activity with the VX2000.. doing slow pans across the large shots .. so that I can later try stills off tape .. and see if I can make up a good panorama shot using Photoshop to stitch the pics together.

Daughter, Ellie .. stays with the MX, and uses its ‘low profile’ small size to get informal cutaway shots of family chatting.

We break for lunch .. I recharge a battery set .. just in case … then drive Ellie home .. as she’s not needed any more.

I return and setup in the dining room for the after dinner speeches and thanks.

Using the Soundfield mike on the ‘top table’ hidden by the wedding cake .. running the cables under the table cloth back to the camera tripod. I leave the tripod folded out of the way so as not to interrupt the serving of the meal .. and wander around out in the gardens looking for comparison shots to try the two cameras on.

The speeches start .. my having asked the father of the bride to come and get me from the bar when they’re ready
J

The mike picks up superb sound yet again .. primarily from the top table but enough ambience to get the guests reactions. I stand at the side of the table .. VX2000 locked on the speaker .. with the MX hand held again for ‘reaction’ cutaways from the guests.

Finally, speeches over .. I take a 4 hour break .. get myself some food and relax awaiting the evening ‘disco’ celebration which starts at 10:00 pm.

As evening approaches .. I compare the results from the MX and the VX2000 … the low light characteristics of each camera are now seen clearly. The VX2000 is stunning .. almost ‘what you see is what you get’ in the low ambient light of the dance floor, but the cost.... loss of resolution and beautiful Yellow everything including bride's dress, brides face... Remember... No Light means No COLOR !  Plain and simple.... BUT, Panny to the rescue... now  we have Zero Lux with color! How did they do that?  My MX .. . now uses what they say is see in the Dark but with Color! .


I talk to the bride and groom and explain that I will probably video them dancing .. and will ‘walk around’ as they dance .. any problem? .. NO .. and thanks for asking … by the way .. have you videoed anything yet? … YES .. but I’ve been staying at a distance so that you don’t feel ‘crowded’ … GREAT they both say .. we can’t wait to see the result.

So .. onto the dance floor they go .. the disco guy dims the lights .. OH Man! .. but wait ! .. the VX2000 is still picking up what I can see .. in just the UV ‘black light’

Black light:

and some ambient incandescent .. I walk slowly around them ..as they dance … using manual focus (the auto has long given up – not enough light!) .. and thanking the designers for the wonderful optical steady shot which is making this operation very easy.

This is GREAT stuff .. I’ll do some slo-mo of this later in editing.

Then the partying starts … HEY .. these disco guys have got a GREAT light show .. laser type stuff .. smoke .. and guess what? the MX now takes it all .. no problems.

LIGHTS!

Everybody is up and dancing .. this is such good stuff to get on video .. plenty of colourful lighting effects .. and the VX2000 captures it all in style.

01:30 .. and I say my goodbyes to the couple and their parents … promise of edited results .. one to two weeks …. (I’m away in LA for a week) .. go home to check final footage.

At home .. 2 a.m. … GREAT stuff … brilliant cameras .. I can SLEEP!!!


WOW my meister!
Grrreat Shoot-out
  MX vs VX 
    
Conclusions...
Reflections .. time for a sober comparison after the shoot out!

Well .. after the wedding .. time to look at both cameras and compare results .. with the pressure OFF!

I must say that my overall impression of the two cameras is very satisfactory .. they’re designed to do a good job .. and both are brilliant .. each in their own respects … but individually .. they have different strengths and weaknesses .. that will govern how I use them in future assignments.

I suppose a good ‘start’ point is to look at my initial experience. Remember .. these cameras arrived at very short notice .. and to be fair .. I HAD used the MX before, and so was aware of its features and weaknesses. The VX2000 … well I have a VX1000 already .. so was partly familiar with the ‘Sony’ approach … although I have to confess .. I didn’t read the manual .. so any problems are my own fault … what is it they say - ‘assume’ makes an ‘ass’ of ‘u’ and ‘me’ ..????

So … for basic ‘ergonomic’ features … the VX2000 has a plethora of buttons controls and sockets all over the camera body …. Which made for one involuntary operation at least … BUT to be honest .. this is really useful once you get used to where everything is .. instead of the time consuming press button .. scroll through menu .. press scroll wheel .. select .. change .. exit … method of the MX … there is a single button push .. make adjustment .. push button .. get on with the job approach on things like AE setting, Audio gain, manual exposure .. etc.

I KNOW that the MX is half the size of the VX2000 .. but the clever idea of putting a lot of direct access buttons for user operation .. particularly behind the flip out LCD .. so you only access them when you’re ‘on-line’ and don’t accidentally knock THOSE buttons …J VX2000 is really user friendly.

The flip-out LCD is much better on the MX .. it is slightly larger, and has a much wider viewing angle. If you’re using it for ‘serious’ quality checks .. then the MX shows you a realistic picture of what you will see on a TV screen … the Sony VX2000 has a funny negative effect if you’re slightly off axis .. and a high preset contrast which is NOT what the picture looks like on a TV Monitor. So .. don’t bank on doing a quality control check with the flipout on the VX2000.


AG-EZ50u/MX ViewScreen

 


DCR-VX2000 ViewScreen

Please NOTE that the VX screen does have very useful brightness and volume controls at its side …

Both cameras have the ‘memory still’ feature allowing taking of stills with the camera in ‘progressive’ scan mode … direct to a memory chip which can be removed and plugged into a USB docking unit that enables direct transfer to computer.

 
MX SD card slot &USB Reader


 
VX2000 Memory Stick slot & reader
: Although both Sony and Panasonic supply their own ‘proprietary’ b image capture and manipulation software .. I prefer to use a ‘pro’bb package like Adobe Photoshop 6.0.

This means only installing the supplied drivers for the USB units .. then you ‘see’ the memory chip/card as a new ‘removable’ drive on your computer , that has a folder full of .jpg pictures. Cut and paste them onto your main hard drive  .. that ‘empties’ the memory card making it ready for new pics.

The Sony names its pictures as DSC0001 etc … and resets each time you download and clear the memory chip. The Panasonic names its pictures as IMGA0001 etc .. but continues incrementing the number even after you delete the images from the SD card. This is actually quite useful, as it means that you can keep copying the files from card to computer … into the same directory without having to rename them. The Sony method means that you would over-write previous image files if you tried to copy without renaming .. as they would always have the same name on new files as already copied ones.

Now .. the all important question .. how do these cameras compare on still quality ..??

… well …. Take a look below …. Now this IS difficult .. because the maximum resolution of the still capture on the VX2000 is half what it is on the MX .. so the pictures HAVE to be resized on this page in order for you to see an ‘apples for apples’ comparison of viewed quality. Remember .. the MX picture is TWICE the size .. and if you zoom in .. that means that you get much less ‘pixelisation’ effects than the VX2000.

Typical print size for the MX still at 1568x1152 (72dpi) is 21.8” x 16”.

Typical print size for the VX2000 still at 640x480 (72dpi) is 8.8”x6.6”

Resolve that into ‘viewable’ pictures .. and the MX is horizontal A4 whilst the VX is horizontal A5.

So .. let’s look at some sobering examples .. taken with cameras set to auto ..and  progressive scan still capture…

MX300-1:

MX Zoom
Full zoom .. handheld – colors are very honest .. and look like my eyes saw! Slight vignetting on the lens .. but then this is late evening .. so low light - max iris.

VX2000 same time & circumstances & settings
 What happened to the color? .. Both of these cameras were set to their ‘default’ centre settings in terms of color and sharpness.

So .. for the next still shots .. I though to take some closer pictures with less depth of field … and see how the two fared …..

MX300 – 2:

MX close up yellow flowers

VX2000 close up yellow flowers:
Hmmm … .the MX looks more ‘natural’
than this Sony 3CCD

Right .. now let’s try some gray skyline …


VX2000 same shot

MX and old faithful


VX2000 and a distracted old faithful! b
shy dog 

MX: NO vignetting –anti shake good 


VX2000 – 5: dull – but no vignetting



:
Finally more MX flowers ..

VX2000 – 6:

Overall .. this test appears to show a superior lens on the VX2000 .. but then let’s not forget, that we are also comparing sensitivity .. I reckon that the MX was probably at least two ‘F’ stops more open than the VX2000 in order to get the same results.

VX2000 cites minimum illumination of 2 lux, compared to the MX300 of 8 lux.

My ‘personal’ feeling is that I prefer the MX in the majority of circumstances for the still shot .. and another VERY important issue .. from an ergonomics view .. it is very easy to press the still capture on the MX .. without moving the camera body … whilst it is virtually impossible .. on the VX2000 due in part to the long length of the camera .. and its weight .. to take a still picture easily.

So .. in this part of the ‘shoot out’ I would take the MX for stills in terms of quality and use-ability.

From the transfer to computer point of view .. both are equally easy .. but the MX again has the added feature of continued increment of file number .. so making it easy to ‘archive’ pictures without renaming.

It's NOW one week later from the above: I just had a look at the stuff I did while in LA .. WOW! .. that MX camera is terrific .. I tried out some 'manual' settings on exposure to see how it improved .. awesome .. taking a stop out of the auto setting improved the contrast ratio and color a bit  ... and the results look so good .. very clean .. no noise .. EXTREME detail.
Hollywood Boulevard by night came out pretty good as well .. in spite of the 'quoted' low lux performance .. the camera really excelled .. particularly compared to the stuff shot under the same circumstances on My VX same time last year.
The widescreen stuff is excellent .. in 'crop' mode .. and yes I took several stills off of tape .. so the manual is wrong chuckmeister. Tell everyone,,,, Please !  I will
send you the High Res images for Our web Shootout. 

We will start posting some feed back and some Pana  
   Engineers thinking on the NEXT Generation
MX!   

OK meister-guy send me to MX UnderWater Stuff @
    Naw, make it to your MX spec and in depth details page HERE 
Oh, what the hey.... send me to the MX Home page
HERE
Or do you also have a MX Audio page 
Whew!
First e-mail Feed back...
dear chuckmeister: 

Hey Chuck do you have any low light footage of the wedding you show on your web 
page especially compared to the vx2000?  Im interested in seeing how much different 
the MX is from the VX2000 in low light conditions. 
Thanks

Hi .. CM passed your mail to me ... I did the wedding shoot. Now .. 
rather than send you video on the internet .. I thought I'd try to 
summarize as
realistically as possible.

Low light performance of the two cameras is best started by 
comparing the claimed LUX sensitivity. The VX2000 claims 
2 LUX The MX claims 12 LUX
That makes the VX2000 
3 times more sensitive at low light ... AND IT
SHOWS!

My background as a broadcast television operative, 
technician and designer for the BBC comes into play 
when I look at these two cameras.

Let me be honest .. I SOLD my VX2000 after the wedding ...
WHY? Well I don't do a lot of low light stuff for starters ... 
but let me say here and now, that VX2000 camera has an 
AWESOME low light performance. No noise, sharp 
color, more sensitive than you own eyes it seems! Against 
all that it is large, awkward to hand hold .. the auto focus 
gives up WAY before the picture quality does ...BUT the 
Super Steady Shot (anti shake) is beyond reproach .. brilliant!
In comparison .. the MX produces 'adequate' images in 
low light situations; which is More than made up for in the
lack of grainy and 'soft' focus and the yellowing the VX and 
other low LUX cams under the SAME LOW LIGHT 
conditions which is what you would expect given the relative 
low LUX sensitivity.
In less demanding lighting .. such as late evening, sunset and such
with careful manual adjustments .. the MX will give VERY 
good results. NOT as bright as the VX2000 ... but still pretty 
impressive. Where the MX REALLY scores is that on full auto
under the vast majority of normal daytime / artificial lighting ... 
the MX just simply EXCELS in the quality of picture. 

People who know nothing about video will watch stuff shot on 
my MX (MX PAL Not Available in UK) & comment about the 
amazing quality and realism of the pictures. I compared under 
'normal' lighting conditions with the VX2000 .. and I'm sorry to 
say the VX2000 was so much of a disappointment and the auto
white balance so weak compared to the MX that I couldn't 
believe the results The VX2000 is definitely a 'pro' orientation 
cam that requires you to switch in Neutral Density (ND) filters 
JUST to cope with bright light and
manually adjust things - that 
the MX does automatically .. and
invisibly .. with perfect 
control and realism of results.I can understand Sony's philosophy 
in this but for my use .. the MX is most applicable. 
The small size, light weight .. and superb mega-pixel
still capture 
(256MB SD cards $59) make it an unbeatable combination for quick 
and easy pro-looking results.
If you continually want to do low light 
stuff then the VX2000 is the one
to go for. 
But remember .. you WILL need to watch the manual adjustments 
to get the best ... and DON'T trust the color you see either in the 
viewfinder
or the flip out LCD. 
Whereas the MX is 'What you See IS What you Get!'

he VX2000 viewfinder is over-saturated .. and there's no 
adjustment for
it.
Still capture off video doesn't really give you the full picture .. so I'm
afraid that's all I can say .. Best wishes der
koormeister-UK

yes .. I agree with chuckmeister .. if you're going to be
sensible the MX is way ahead of the VX2000 in 
color balance, contrast reproduction and all else automatic ... 
the VX2000 colormetry 'sucks' to put it bluntly, when you 
compare against a full blown half sized mega camera
like the MX7000.
If you need to shoot low light seriously .. then take additional 
lighting with you ... the MX7000 still blows away the opposition 
if you have any light.

I just played a tape made on the VX2000 from the wedding 
evening disco.. it IS nice .. but the color is questionable .. 
shame is .. I didn't try the MX under the same conditions.

However .. I DID shoot some interesting low light stuff 
recently on a trip back from Niagara ... car headlights at 
night full moon in the distance ... GREAT sunset ... if you'd be 
interested .. amazingly perfect color rendition !!

I'll zip up some still frames and send them ... 

***********************
OK, Now MX Optics

Thanks for your help in finding this fine specimen of a camera chuckmeister! I have written a review on the MX below. I have also done some tests on its optics that your readers as well as you may find interesting and to some how show my appreciation for your efforts.

Keep up the good work!

Can there possibly be anything wrong with Panasonics MX NTSC? I purchased a MX several months back and though the cup is half full, there are a few downfalls to the miracle cam.

The three major flaws are that it is a bottom feeder (the tape loads under the camera so if you have a BeachTek adapter or a Studio 1 you have to remove that before you remove or reload a tape), the infamous low light problem, and no built in ND filter. Luckily, with a little extra patience, a light, and a couple ND filters you can overcome these obstacles.

Because the MX does have a built in ND filter I d highly recommend and you should get the MX Filter Kit set.  And the New Leica Like Anamorphic Pana Wide for the MX7000 are what I use and with B+W you can double them up due to the high quality optics. They also give you more of a film look allowing you to open up your aperture. This makes it possible to place your subject in focus and the background out of focus; not to mention, many camcorders actually loose optical quality at the higher aperture settings such as at F16.

As for the low light lack of performance, there are a few tricks. One, of course, is to go into the effects menu and select gain up. Just make sure you have the correct white balance selected before you select this effect. The second trick is to have the sharpness turned down. The higher the sharpness is set the worse the low light performance.

In the sound department I decided to go with a Sign VideoXLR adapter and an Azden SGM-2x shotgun mic. This mic works great with the camera, it comes with it’s own power module, two windscreens, a shock mount that fits the shoe on the MX, and an extension barrel that gives it super-cardioid pick-up. Not bad for half the price of Sennheiser’s ME66/K6.

The trick I found to the sound on the MX when you are using an external mic is to go into the advanced menu and turn the mic to full manual (no AGC) and take the gain down 5-7 steps below 0. This puts the gain at around –15dB to–21dB Even though my sound was a bit low in Premiere 6 I found it much better to increase the gain in Premiere then in the camera. If you have the gain set at the arrow which is 0dB you pick up unwanted noise and hiss. Just like the sharpness, turn it down.

Onto picture quality. I have read people say that the camera is progressive in the frame mode. Well, I’m not so sure that it is. I say this because the picture quality in frame mode is inferior to that of normal mode or progressive mode

I took three identical shots, one in Frame mode, Normal, and Progressive.

I then cut one frame from each of these three shots in Premiere and exported it to Photoshop as a bmp file. The quality is noticeably better when the camera is in Normal mode and when in Progressive mode. The Frame mode has less detail and more stair stepping. I love the “film look” of Frame mode but the quality seems to drop. (I would like to hear from somebody who has done a similar test but on a high definition screen with shots ranging from stills, to pans, and from high to low light). From my tests the evidence was conclusive that the resolution of the MX is higher in Normal and Progressive mode. Frame mode looks cool but at a cost. Somebody prove me wrong and I’ll be happy!

Now to the sharpness issue. Under advanced functions/Picture ADJ. I would recommend that you keep the sharpness in the middle if not on the (-) side. My still tests showed that the highest sharpness level looked very “digital” and full of stairs. It appears to be a fake digitized sharpness on the (+) side. The lowest setting looked more “filmish” yet a little on the soft side. Keep the sharpness in the middle and you’ll keep your shots looking good, not to mention it will be less noisy in low light when compared to the sharpest setting.
Review by Isaac-meister


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